:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > This transmission is best viewed on a non-proportionally spaced full screen. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > DIRECTORY ASSISTANCE FOR INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR RADIO/INTERNET DEVICES. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > THIS IS THE TELNET NEWS/LAND LINE LID THIS WEEK FOR RELEASE: SATURDAY DECEMBER 13TH, 2003 22:00 EST ::: ::: ::: ::: ::::::::: ::::::::: ::::::::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::::::::: ::::::::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: : ::::::::: : ::::::::: : ::::::::: > ON THE ROAD TO MOLDAVIA, ROMANIA AND ASIATIC RUSSIA! > LETTERS TO THE TELNET NEWS/LAND LINE LID THIS WEEK! > THE TWELVE DAYS OF TECHNOLOGY BEFORE CHRISTMAS! :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > The TELNET NEWS/LAND LINE LID THIS WEEK is distributed via text and 7PLUS over both amateur radio and Internet message forwarding systems. > Free Internet email subscription - send request to: > The TELNET NEWS/LAND LINE LID THIS WEEK is officially archived at: ae6jn.ampr.org [44.16.2.46] at Cerritos, California. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > The following lists detail observed collateral LAN devices out from the gateway(s) displayed in tables shown elsewhere in the body of this transmission or those identified in the caption sets below. While these lists do not represent a complete inventory, they do chronicle sample penetrations one to four devices deep into a specified target environment. The user can certainly connect out as far as the local network will support. ............................................................................ > NETROM Alias/Callsign-SSID: City: County: ST:CO: AMPRNet/Internet Address: QRA Locator: Postal Code: OSYS: AMPRNet/Internet Domain: Geographic Location LAT - LON MHz/B: > Path Statement Out From: Universal resource Locator: Hierarchial Address: E-Mail Address: Club Affiliation: Physical Location: Other Comment: The expression "C" indicates a NET/ROM or AX25 connection. The expression "t" indicates a AMPRNet telnet session. The expression "telnet://[IP]:[PORT NUMBER]" indicates an Internet telnet session. Unless other specified, all domain names displayed in the caption sets below will carry the <.ampr.org> suffix even though said suffix may not be shown. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: AMATEUR RADIO ER1 - MOLDAVIA ............................................................................ ERLNX:ER1C-4 Kishinev Moddavia EU KN44KX AWZNode v0.4-pre2 > telnet://aa6hf.ampr.org:23/C OK0NGG/C ER1C-5/ > The Sysop isSergei ER1RAN. > Session scrollback: --- ERXnet:ER1C-5 => Interlink setup... *** connected to ER1C-4 AWZNode v0.4-pre2 Welcome to ER1C System ! Welcome, new user! Please use the Info command. ERLNX:ER1C Node Cmd: !,?,B,C,D,DXPI,DXIT,E,F,FLEX,H,HO,I,L,MH,MS,N,PI,PIT,P,R,S,TA,T,U -> AWZNode v0.4-pre2 - February 18, 2000 Sysop : Sergei, ER1AN QTH : Kishinev Locator : KN46KX AX25-MAIL : er1an@er3kaz.mda.eu E-MAIL : basta@mail.md PC : 586-133Mhz ,RAM 64M , HDD 3600Mb OS : Linux Mandrake 9.0 Kernel 2.4.19 ............................................................................ ERXnet:ER1C-5 Kishinev Moldavia EU KN46KX (X)NET v.132 > telnet://aa6hf.ampr.org:23/C OK0NGG/C ER1C-5 > Session scrollback: --- Interlink setup... *** connected to ER1C-5 (X)NET v1.32 * Kishinev * (KN46KX) ,Moldavia Welcome N2FNH ! ( type h for help ) AWZNode ER1C-4 => gw Mailbox ER1C-8 => box ERXnet:ER1C-5 => ............................................................................ ER3KAZ-0 Rybnitsa Pridnestrovie Moldavia EU KN47LS PC/FlexNet V3.3g > telnet://aa6hf.ampr.org:23/C OK0NGG/C ER1C-5//C ER3KAZ > The Sysop is Anatoly ER3DX. > Sponsered by the Moldova Steel Works - Radio Club of Rybnitsa ER3R. > Session scrollback: --- Trying ER3KAZ-0 on ip0... Type to abort Connected to ER3KAZ-0 (Escape: CTRL-T) PC/FlexNet V3.3g FlexNet node & hamradio mail-server in Moldova sponsored by Moldova Steel Works (www.aommz.com) Radio Club of Rybnitsa - ER3KAZ (ER3R) I(nfo) , M(box) , A(map) , C(onnect) , MH(eard) , H(elp) => Pridnestrovie Moldova Radio Club of Rybnitsa - ER3KAZ (ER3R) Equipment: IBM-PC 386-DX40 RAM-4MGb,HDD-325MGb 3Com EtherLink 10 ISA Baycom modem (FX-614) Alinco DJ-190 (144,675MHz) 5 el Yagi Soft: MSDOS-6.22 FlexNet V3.3g digi OpenBCM V1.02 sysop: Anatoly (ER3DX) ER3DX@ER3KAZ.MDA.EU, er3dx@yahoo.com => V _____I_____ __________ ________________ I I I I I PC-386 DX40 I I 144.675 I____I BAYCOM I____I MS-DOS FLEXNET I___INTERNET I I I FX-614 I I FLEXDIGI AXIP I I___________I I__________I I________________I => ............................................................................ ER3KAZ-8 Rynitsa Pridnestrovie Moldavia EU ER3KAZ.MDA.EU KN47LS OpenBCM V1.03 (DOS) 144.6750MHz/[NF]b > telnet://aa6hf.ampr.org:23/C OK0NGG/C ER1C-5//C ER3KAZ/ > The Sysop is Antoly ER3DX. > Sponsered by the Moldova Steel Works - Radio Club of Rybnitsa ER3R. > Session scrollback: --- *** connected to ER3KAZ-8 OpenBCM V1.03 (DOS)* Users 1 * this is hamradio mail-server Helplevel= 2, Lines= 0, first Login. No messages found for N2FNH @ WB2WXQ.#WNY.NY.USA.NOAM. Help Dir Read Erase Check REPly Send Alter Quit (N2FNH)--> Info for BBS ER3KAZ.MDA.EU [OpenBCM] Sysop: ER3DX (Anatoly) Logincall: ER3KAZ-8 Forward: ER3KAZ-7 e-mail.......er3kaz@yahoo.com AX.25........er3kaz@er3kaz.mda.eu QTH..........Rybnitsa, Pridnestrovie, Moldova Locator......KN47LS Equipment....Alinco DJ-190, 144.675 MHz Antenna......5/8 PC...........IBM PC 386-40mhz, ram 4mb, hdd 325mb OS...........MS DOS 6.22 FWD links....please enter and press ST F command Help Dir Read Erase Check REPly Send Alter Quit (N2FNH)--> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: YO8 - Romania ............................................................................ YO8KGU Suceava RO EU KN37CP PC/FlexNet V3.3g 144.6750MHz/1200b > telnet://aa6hf.ampr.org:23/C OK0NGG/C ER1C-5//C ER3KAZ/C YO8KGU > The Sysop is Sebastian YO8SSH. > Sponsered by Universitatea Suceava and Radioclubl CSTA Suceava. > Session scrollback: --- *** connected to YO8KGU PC/FlexNet V3.3e Welcome to Suceava Paket Network ! YO8KGU Universitatea Suceava - * KN37CP * sysop. YO8SSH - Sebastian yo8ssh@qsl.net => QTH Suceava KN37CP Port 0 = 144.675 Mhz 1200 Bd AFSK Port 1 = Port 2 = ER3KAZ Republica Moldova Port 3 = YO5KAQ-5 Nod KAQ Bistrita Port 15 = F6FBB BBS YO8KGU-8 "Suceava Mail" Calculator P I 32M RAM 44M HDD Statie MX-294 / Ant 5/8L SySop Nod&BBS YO8SSH - Sebastian / YO8AZQ Ady Amplasament: Universitatea Suceava YO8RDU Ghita Radioclubul CSTA Suceava www.qsl.net/yo8kga => ............................................................................ YO8KGU-8 Suceava RO EU KN37CP FBB-7.00g > telnet://aa6hf.ampr.org:23/C ON0NGG/C ER1C-5//C ER3KAZ/C YO8KGU / > The Sysop is Sebastian YO8SSH. > Sponsered by Universitatea Suceava and Radioclubl CSTA Suceava. > Session scrollback: --- [FBB-7.00g-AB1FHMRX$] YO8KGU BBS, QTH KN37CP. Hello ???, you are now on channel 1. Here are 17 active messages, 240 is last message and 220 is the last you have listed. Assigned channels: Ch. 1 (FLEXNET) : N2FNH-0 - Sat 29/11/03 08:20 via : YO8KGU-5 ER1C-5 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: RA9 UA9 - ASIATIC RUSSIA ............................................................................ RA9FTM-1 Perm City RU AS RA9TFM.PRM.RUS.AS LO88DA FBB-7.00i (1) ??.????MHz/0300b (3) telephone/14K4b > telnet://aa6hf.ampr.org:23/C OK0NGG/C ER1C-5//C ER3KAZ/ C UA9FBV-10/C RA9FFM-1 > The Sysop is Mike RA9TFM. > The TELNET NEWS/LAND LINE LID THIS WEEK is displayed at this location. > Session scrollback: --- link setup (1)... *** connected to RA9FTM-1 [FBB-7.00i-AB1FHMRX$] RA9FTM BBS, QTH LO88DA. Hello ???. This is your first contact with this BBS ............................................................................ UA9FBV-10 Perm City RU AS LO88DA (x)Net soft 144.6700MHz/[NF]b > telnet://aa6hf.ampr.org:23/C ON0NGG/C ER1C-5//C ER3KAZ/ C UA9FBV-10 > The Sysop is Mike RA9TFM. > Session scrollback: --- *** connected to UA9FBV-10 ----=== (x)Net soft ===---- Welcome to AX25 node in Perm city! URL: http://www.perm-hams.da.ru =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- RA9FTM-2: Flexdigi | RA9FTM-1: BBS =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- UA9FBV-10 => Information about NetRom, Flexnet, TcpIp router ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Personal AMATUER RADIO STATION UA9FBV-10 Location : Asiatic Russia, Perm-city, LO88DA WWW Page : http://www.ua9fbv.narod.ru/NEWS/DOCs/misc/BBS.htm SysOp : RA9FTM, Mike Software : Xnet for Windows Computer : Pentium 75 Mhz, Windows 95 Port 1 : Link to BBS UA9FBV-5 Port 2 : Link to Flexnet Air Node UA9FBV-11 with 144.670 Mhz port ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contact E-mail: ra9ftm@amsat.org or ra9ftm@qsl.net Packet: RA9FTM@RA9FTM.PRM.RUS.AS UA9FBV-10 => :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > LETTERS THIS WEEK FROM THE TELNET NEWS/LAND LINE LID THIS WEEK MAILBAG! ............................................................................ From: "Paul" Return-path: To: Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 19:14:40 -0800 Subject: TN Archive Moved? Hi Bill, Have you decided to move the Telnet News Archive elsewhere? I couldn't help but notice you removed mention of it from your publication. Paul Delaney ae6jn.ampr.org [44.16.2.46] ae6jn@ae6jn.#sca.ca.usa.noam paul.hamradio@verizon.net http://44.16.2.58 > Hi Paul, No, I have not moved the Telnet News Archive elsewhere. To the best of my knowledge, you are still the main library but I did remove mention of your site because in the past few months, I have not been able to connect to any your systems either via direct-to-your-address telnet nor by way of K2MF. Attempts to access your NNTP server using the HAMSERV program produced no connection and so I was not sure if you were still in operation. I could see that your e-mail address was good and your webpage was still intact but now I can restore the official declarative at the banner of this most august electronic publication, resuming with this transmission. Bill.> ............................................................................ From: ve1ex@ve8jl.ampr.org (Andrew) Return-path: To: n2fnh@juno.com Date: Tue, 09 Dec 03 11:58:03 -0700 Subject: Blue Screen of Death & more Bill: sorry to read in the Telnet News about your blue screen of death and all the snow you folks got. We got some here but not as much as you did, still I had to spend a couple of hours shovelling the white stuff. I have a couple of questions for you. First: Are you aware of a map or list that would show all of the packet nodes accross Canada? My friend Art O'Neill got me into packet a couple of years ago and he told me about how he was able to Cross Canada via vhf packet back in the early 90's. I have tried to do this myself but can only get to the western side of the Saint Lawrence River, Trois Rivere and a little bit further. I would like to cross Canada via vhf packet but not sure if it is doable anymore. Another question: Is it possible to access the net using old computers, like a 486 using the ARP Net or the old internet. Is the old internet still around? Thanks in advance Bill, really enjoy the Telnet News. 73 Andrew Bowlby VE1EX ve1ex@ve8jl.ampr.org > Hi Andrew, The only maps I recall seeing or being in possession of were provided by the North East Digital Association (NEDA) back in the mid 1990's. Through the dedicated efforts of Tadd KA2DEW, Dana WA2WNI and a few other very talented virtual cartographers, these charts detailed then-existing local and regional networks from New Jersey up through the southern tier of Ontario and Quebec. Unfortunately, NEDA folded a few years back so current charts or lists appear to be no longer available. And as the Internet became more widely available, many dedicated amateur radio operators closed their nodes, packet bulletin board systems and DXClusters or simply moved them onto the Internet, which in turn, created large gaps in service, or in some cases, totally isolated provincial networks. I do remember reading a packet message back many moon ago about a ham who produced a huge list of nodes that he had used to successfully connect out from Ontario to Arizona. All by radio! No wires! Plans for the ARPANet first got underway as early as 1966. This primordial global network sponsered by the Advanced Research Projects Agency - ARPA underwent evolutionary development up though 1983 when like a single celled protozoan, it divided into two elements: the MILNet, merging with the Defense Data Network and the remaining ARPANet. The ARPANet was finally decommissioned in 1990 but by then the physical and virtual infrastructures were in place and the whole schmear soon came to be known as the Internet. It turns out the old Internet is still around because it's also today's Internet but a lot has changed since 1966. There is something called Internet 2 but I have no real knowledge of this. If anyone has successfully entered this realm, please write to the TELNET NEWS/LAND LINE LID THIS WEEK with vivid details! Accessing the Internet with old computers? Well, my friend! You've come to the right place. It just so happens that this week I am using a Digital DECpc LPv 433sx, in other words, an old 486 "Dumpster Baby", loaded with DOS 6.22, Windows 3.11 and Internet Explorer Version 3.03 (with built-in dialer!). And while this machine is loaded with some of the best vintage Windows 3x software that could be had for free, I can do all my Internet packeteering using WinPack V6.80, perhaps the best program for the older computers since it was written in 16-bit format. I am sending to you under separate cover a recent article I wrote detailing the means to make Internetable old computers using Windows 3.11 and DOS. It's not too terribly technical but it should provide some usable information on how setup your own "Dumpster Baby" for surfing the net. Bill.> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > What follows is another in a series of "Requests For Comment" that the TELNET NEWS/LAND LINE LID THIS WEEK has unearthed at various information repositories. RFCs are documents composed and written detailing certain standards or operational protocols for use within the Internet community. Some of these otherwise dry commentaries may actually make for some unusual if not interesting reading. Bill.> ............................................................................ RFC 1882 - The 12-Days of Technology Before Christmas Network Working Group B. Hancock Request for Comments: 1882 Network-1 Software and Technology, Inc. Category: Informational December 1995 The 12-Days of Technology Before Christmas Status of this Memo This memo provides information for the Internet community. This memo does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. Discussion On the first day of Christmas, technology gave to me: A database with a broken b-tree (what the hell is a b-tree anyway?) On the second day of Christmas, technology gave to me: Two transceiver failures (CRC errors? Collisions? What is going on?) And a database with a broken b-tree (Rebuild WHAT? It's a 10GB database!) On the third day of Christmas, technology gave to me: Three French users (who, of course, think they know everything) Two transceiver failures (which are now spewing packets all over the net) And a database with a broken b-tree (Backup? What backup?) On the fourth day of Christmas, technology gave to me: Four calls for support (playing the same Christmas song over and over) Three French users (Why do they like to argue so much over trivial things?) Two transceiver failures (How the hell do I know which ones they are?) And a database with a broken b-tree (Pointer error? What's a pointer error?) On the fifth day of Christmas, technology gave to me: Five golden SCSI contacts (Of course they're better than silver!) Four support calls (Ever notice how time stands still when on hold? Three French users (No, we don't have footpedals on PC's. Why do you ask?) Two transceiver failures (If I knew which ones were bad, I would know which ones to fix!) And a database with a broken b-tree (Not till next week? Are you nuts?!?!) On the sixth day of Christmas, technology gave to me: Six games a-playing (On the production network, of course!) Five golden SCSI contacts (What do you mean "not terminated!") Four support calls (No, don't transfer me again - do you HEAR? Damn!) Three French users (No, you cannot scan in by putting the page to the screen...) Two transceiver failures (I can't look at the LEDs - they're in the ceiling!) And a database with a broken b-tree (Norway? That's where this was written?) On the seventh day of Christmas, technology gave to me: Seven license failures (Expired? When?) Six games a-playing (Please stop tying up the PBX to talk to each other!) Five golden SCSI contacts (What do you mean I need "wide" SCSI?) Four support calls (At least the Muzak is different this time...) Three French Users (Well, monsieur, there really isn't an "any" key, but...) Two transceiver failures (SQE? What is that? If I knew I would set it myself!) And a database with a broken b-tree (No, I really need to talk to Lars - NOW!) On the eighth day of Christmas, technology gave to me: Eight MODEMs dialing (Who bought these? They're a security violation!) Seven license failures (How many WEEKS to get a license?) Six games a-playing (What do you mean one pixel per packet on updates?!?) Five golden SCSI contacts (Fast SCSI? It's supposed to be fast, isn't it?) Four support calls (I already told them that! Don't transfer me back - DAMN!) Three French users (No, CTL-ALT-DEL is not the proper way to end a program) Two transceiver failures (What do you mean "babbling transceiver"?) And a database with a broken b-tree (Does anyone speak English in Oslo?) On the ninth day of Christmas, technology gave to me: Nine lady executives with attitude (She said do WHAT with the servers?) Eight MODEMs dialing (You've been downloading WHAT?) Seven license failures (We sent the P.O. two months ago!) Six games a-playing (HOW many people are doing this to the network?) Five golden SCSI contacts (What do you mean two have the same ID?) Four support calls (No, I am not at the console - I tried that already.) Three French users (No, only one floppy fits at a time? Why do you ask?) Two transceiver failures (Spare? What spare?) And a database with a broken b-tree (No, I am trying to find Lars! L-A-R-S!) On the tenth day of Christmas, technology gave to me: Ten SNMP alerts flashing (What is that Godawful beeping?) Nine lady executives with attitude (No, it used to be a mens room? Why?) Eight MODEMs dialing (What Internet provider? We don't allow Internet here!) Seven license failures (SPA? Why are they calling us?) Six games a-playing (No, you don't need a graphics accelerator for Lotus! ) Five golden SCSI contacts (You mean I need ANOTHER cable?) Four support calls (No, I never needed an account number before...) Three French users (When the PC sounds like a cat, it's a head crash!) Two transceiver failures (Power connection? What power connection?) And a database with a broken b-tree (Restore what index pointers?) On the eleventh day of Christmas, technology gave to me: Eleven boards a-frying (What is that terrible smell?) Ten SNMP alerts flashing (What's a MIB, anyway? What's an extension?) Nine lady executives with attitude (Mauve? Our computer room tiles in mauve?) Eight MODEMs dialing (What do you mean you let your roommate dial-in?) Seven license failures (How many other illegal copies do we have?!?!) Six games a-playing (I told you - AFTER HOURS!) Five golden SCSI contacts (If I knew what was wrong, I wouldn't be calling!) Four support calls (Put me on hold again and I will slash your credit rating!) Three French users (Don't hang your floppies with a magnet again!) Two transceiver failures (How should I know if the connector is bad?) And a database with a broken b-tree (I already did all of that!) On the twelfth day of Christmas, technology gave to me: Twelve virtual pipe connections (There's only supposed to be two!) Eleven boards a-frying (What a surge suppressor supposed to do, anyway?) Ten SNMP alerts flashing (From a distance, it does kinda look like XMas lights.) Nine lady executives with attitude (What do you mean aerobics before backups?) Eight MODEMs dialing (No, we never use them to connect during business hours.) Seven license failures (We're all going to jail, I just know it.) Six games a-playing (No, no - my turn, my turn!) Five golden SCSI contacts (Great, just great! Now it won't even boot!) Four support calls (I don't have that package! How did I end up with you!) Three French users (I don't care if it is sexy, no more nude screen backgrounds!) Two transceiver failures (Maybe we should switch to token ring...) And a database with a broken b-tree (No, operator - Oslo, Norway. We were just talking and were cut off...) Security Considerations Security issues are not discussed in this memo. Author's Address Bill Hancock, Ph.D. Network-1 Software & Technology, Inc. DFW Research Center 878 Greenview Dr. Grand Prairie, TX 75050 EMail: hancock@network-1.com Phone: (214) 606-8200 Fax: (214) 606-8220 Comment on RFC 1882 Previous: RFC 1881 - IPv6 Address Allocation Management Next: RFC 1883 - Internet Protocol, Version 6 (IPv6) Specification :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > If you are interested in sharing information on global amateur packet radio and amateur Internet devices -or- require additional detail on how to reach a specific locality, then please drop a line to the TELNET NEWS. The request will be researched and then published as soon as time allows. Please send thoughts and comments to: > My name is Bill and I thank you for reading the TELNET NEWS! > The TELNET NEWS/LAND LINE LID THIS WEEK is copyright (c) 2003. - 30 - ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::